Best way to recruit people ? - Guild Wars Forums

Gerbill · Aug 17, 2005, 02:34 AM // 02:34

I've got a very small guild, only like 6 members or so, and I'd like to get more.. but I don't just want random people in my guild..

I told my 2 officers to get members aswel, and the way to do it.. would be to party with people in coop missions or team arena's and then invite them to our guild if they play alright they dont' have to be masters just average players will do, they don't have to be online 24/7 either.

But the thing is.. you hardly ever find people who are not in guilds and are reasonable players.

where to find them ? >.>

cuz if someone offers somewhere to be in a gulid, they'd choose some rich guild and big more likely than a small guild which isn't too rich (have a guild hall n stuff though) and not too many members.
Because right now the members we have.. are hardly online which are only like 3.. and then the 2 officers and me. And the officers and me are online quite a lot compared to the rest, especially I am online a lot.
But the thing is with 3 people and 4 henchman in a GvG you don't stand as much chance as with 8 reasonably- to good players.

Does anyone know a way to recruit reasonable players.. as in how to find out they are.. and how to find ones that aren't in a guild yet..

Our guild requirements aren't much either..
- just be online regularly if you miss a day every now and then it's fine
- preferably laid back people who don't want to have everything right there and now.
- respect guildmembers and don't scam people.

that's bout it.
we're mostly a PVE guild who also like the PvP aspect, but we haven't done much yet.. mostly because of lack of members, we've had 1 guild battle with 4 henchman 4 members and we won that.

anyone got any suggestions ?

btw.. we're a european guild.

Divine Elemental · Aug 17, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05

via Pug Groups if ur a pvp....
for pve recruit in Droknars/Lions Arch

Ristaron · Aug 17, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

If you find a hot spot, tell me

smurfhunter · Aug 17, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05

i started a guild with a few friends. i got my first few members helping out a lvl 10 as a lvl 20, it impressed some of the lower lvls lol. then it just tends to snowball. do funny things.

like i once merged with another guild when me and this monk in our guild started sync dancing in sanctum cay. pretty soon it was 6 monks sync dancing. then we did the mission together (FYI it was hella easy with 6 monks), then it just so happened that two of the monks were in a guild and that they were looking to merge. voila, + 5 members. that stay.

Sir Santiago · Aug 18, 2005, 02:42 PM // 14:42

A lot of people go to Pre-Ascalon, Ascalon, Lion's Arch, and Droknar's and drop their "Guild Ad" and expect people to instantly reply.. Sorry, doesn't work like that.

My guild has similar troubles in attracting people to our guild.. Afterall, what advantage do they have to join our smaller guild than a large guild with many people?

The key is to make your "Guild Ad" unique. Try to state exactly what you are looking for instead of doing the usual.. "So and so guild has cool capes and a cool guild hall. PM me to join". Just make it more interesting, and I promise people will respond.

It's also important that once someone responds, make sure you get to know them first. If they seem like they'd be a good fit, invite 'em. If you are even SLIGHTLY unsure, don't invite them. You want the best people you can find that fits YOUR specific guild mold.

Again, like another poster said, play with other people. If someone asks for help, help them. Be friendly, talk to them, etc.

**Above all, DO NOT invite people that are looking for rewards for joining!.. Ex, people that want money to join your guild. It just isn't worth it in the long run, as I've found out myself. You want people that want to join and that will contribute to the guild.

None suspect the Ranger · Aug 18, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by Sir Santiago

**Above all, DO NOT invite people that are looking for rewards for joining!.. Ex, people that want money to join your guild. It just isn't worth it in the long run, as I've found out myself. You want people that want to join and that will contribute to the guild.

Also if someone is recruited and starts asking does anyone have such and such or can I borrow money etc. boot 'em. They're just looking to take advantage of you.

The way I used to recruit is do a mission, preferably something post ascension, and if I was impressed I'd send an invite afterwards. No way to tell how someone plays unless you're there with them and they don't know you're grading them. I pay close attention to how well the person works with others...do they listen well(+), do what they're supposed to, heal when needed, etc.(+), or are they always aggroing the wrong mobs(-), rush off without waiting for the group to catch up(-), doing what they want to do without regard for the rest of the group(-), or my pet peeve...grab dropped items while in the middle of a fight(-). Those are a few points I look for, maturity would be another, which usually is reflected in how they play(selfish, patient, etc.). HTH

conker · Aug 18, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

well, i just made my friends officers nd they got the job done pretty well, about 6 are friends and they recruited about 1 or 2each so we had bout 14 after that, and irecruited bout 10 and such.... and in droknars forge i seem to see alot of ppl say, lookin for a guild.

Druids Arrow · Aug 19, 2005, 11:05 AM // 11:05

At the moment, my guild isn't looking to recruit but when we do we usually drop ads like (Yes people can use this) : (Guild Name) is now recruiting. We are an English based PvP guild, using TS. To apply visit (insert web address here/ or whisper me for details). By having the website URL it attracts the more serious players.

If your guild is based on having fun and not so much on the competition/PvP based side of things try an ad like : Join Today and recieve a free care bear!

-Hope that helps a little

free4all · Aug 19, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

I think guilds who spam for new members are going about it wrong. If you want new members, make sure they are good first. For example, you are doing Thunderhead Keep, and the monk is doing an amazing job. Look, he/she is guildless! Send them a whisper if they would be interested in joining you.
Same with PvP. Do the 4v4 arenas, with 3 guildies and one random person. If they happen to be guildless, ask them if they are interested.
The pro to this is that you get to experience what kind of player and what kind of person they are. You probably don't want people who scream "OMG HAX" when they lose...so I wouldn't recommend random recruiting in ascalon/lions arch.

Sir Santiago · Aug 21, 2005, 01:35 PM // 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by free4all

I think guilds who spam for new members are going about it wrong. If you want new members, make sure they are good first. For example, you are doing Thunderhead Keep, and the monk is doing an amazing job. Look, he/she is guildless! Send them a whisper if they would be interested in joining you.
Same with PvP. Do the 4v4 arenas, with 3 guildies and one random person. If they happen to be guildless, ask them if they are interested.
The pro to this is that you get to experience what kind of player and what kind of person they are. You probably don't want people who scream "OMG HAX" when they lose...so I wouldn't recommend random recruiting in ascalon/lions arch.

Of course, certain guilds have different priorities, and by talking to them for a while you can often discern what type of player they are. But then again, this doesn't always work. >.<

Philedius · Aug 21, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50

Simple answer: Pre Searing

northern wind · Aug 22, 2005, 01:14 AM // 01:14

pre searing recruits FTW

Glydan · Aug 22, 2005, 11:27 AM // 11:27

I'd say spamming in the guild chat is still okay, as long as you have some sort of screening process for the recruits~

J snukka · Aug 22, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24

What i used to do was go into any town and hold down ctrl. If i found someone without a tag name next to them i would ask them whether they wanna join a guild or not. Then i mission with them or do whatever they what(quest, farm) to test out their talent.

Hope that helps

Billiard · Aug 22, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I had a untagged new character in Frontier gate or some other early mission and a level 20 was there looking for non-guild affiliated people to assist. While he was not actively recruiting, I think that would be a good recruiting method. Help some folks out and get to know them, then offer to invite them to your guild if they seemed alright.

Sporky · Aug 23, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39

I ignore "[Guildname] is now recruiting, we have a cool cape and guildhall, whisper me for details" messages by definition, and my answer to spam-whispers "Want to join our guild?" is always no.

A guild that spam-recruits like that sends the message that they want warm bodies to fill up their roster rather than quality players.

Try offering to be helpful. Look for the people with slightly low levels or slightly crappy armor and no guild tag and ask if they want to join you for a quest or two. It may take a lot of time and energy, but great guilds made up of great players rarely just suddenly materialize. Of course, you may get lucky, but it's far more likely that you'll wind up with a bunch of idiots.

Basically, I see two options: you can either spam-recruit and filter people out after they join, which may actually alienate the better (or at least more experienced) players who don't want to join a zerg guild; or, you can grow in size more slowly and with much more effort, but be assured that only good players are in your ranks.

SOT · Aug 23, 2005, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by northern wind

pre searing recruits FTW

Worked for 13 of the 19 of us

Sir Santiago · Aug 23, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sporky

I ignore "[Guildname] is now recruiting, we have a cool cape and guildhall, whisper me for details" messages by definition, and my answer to spam-whispers "Want to join our guild?" is always no.

A guild that spam-recruits like that sends the message that they want warm bodies to fill up their roster rather than quality players.

Try offering to be helpful. Look for the people with slightly low levels or slightly crappy armor and no guild tag and ask if they want to join you for a quest or two. It may take a lot of time and energy, but great guilds made up of great players rarely just suddenly materialize. Of course, you may get lucky, but it's far more likely that you'll wind up with a bunch of idiots.

Basically, I see two options: you can either spam-recruit and filter people out after they join, which may actually alienate the better (or at least more experienced) players who don't want to join a zerg guild; or, you can grow in size more slowly and with much more effort, but be assured that only good players are in your ranks.

Like this poster has said, "spam recruiting" the typical message "cool cape, cool guild hall" is often ignored.

If you "spam recruit" using a unique guild ad that specifically states what type of player you want and what type of guild you're in, the people you want to join are more likely to respond. Unfortunately, I bet most people still ignore most of the guild ads, predicting most of them will be the same stuff. Like Sporky has said, helping people out on quests & missions is the best way to recruit if you consider that most people aren't looking at guild ads.

However, don't become the creepy guild recruiter in Pre-Ascalon that constantly spams "WHO NEEDS HELP ON A QUEST?!??!".. If they offer, respond in a PM politely that you are willing to, or if you want to offer help to people in the general area, offer help ONCE. Offering to help more than once (in a forceful manner) can be even worse than "spam recruiting".

If you are "spam recruiting" or helping people out on missions, your first priority should be to get to know them, and see if you get along with them(this is atleast in my experience). I'd rather have an unskilled/new player with a good personality than an "uber" player with a bad attitude. These people with bad attitudes often do more harm than good, no matter how "uber" they are.

Remember this, atleast: Skill as a player can be developed, but personality often cannot be changed.

Gerbill · Aug 24, 2005, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Thanks for your help people =)

last sunday our guild took in a newer and younger guild to merge.
We knew the guildleader from another game and he's a solid player, we don't know about the rest yet, so im currently filtering them out etc.
And the guild that we had with the few members are mainly around lvl 20 so we're helping them out now, the new members that is, since they average around lvl 13.

I don't mind doing this at all it's a good way to get to know the members aswel.
I don't like spamming anything even in the trade channel usually I only offer things twice and then I'll stop and try again later. So for me that's not really an option, I've set up rules for recruiting for my officers.
And now we all basicly take up some time every other day to party with some guild-less people and see if they fit with our guild.

these ideas posted here helped a lot =)

Stellar · Aug 24, 2005, 06:21 AM // 06:21

play with them and get to know them that's what i do

Aug 17, 2005, 02:34 AM // 02:34	#1
Gerbill Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Frozen plains. Guild: The Llanowar Legion [LL] Profession: Me/N	Best way to recruit people ? I've got a very small guild, only like 6 members or so, and I'd like to get more.. but I don't just want random people in my guild.. I told my 2 officers to get members aswel, and the way to do it.. would be to party with people in coop missions or team arena's and then invite them to our guild if they play alright they dont' have to be masters just average players will do, they don't have to be online 24/7 either. But the thing is.. you hardly ever find people who are not in guilds and are reasonable players. where to find them ? >.> cuz if someone offers somewhere to be in a gulid, they'd choose some rich guild and big more likely than a small guild which isn't too rich (have a guild hall n stuff though) and not too many members. Because right now the members we have.. are hardly online which are only like 3.. and then the 2 officers and me. And the officers and me are online quite a lot compared to the rest, especially I am online a lot. But the thing is with 3 people and 4 henchman in a GvG you don't stand as much chance as with 8 reasonably- to good players. Does anyone know a way to recruit reasonable players.. as in how to find out they are.. and how to find ones that aren't in a guild yet.. Our guild requirements aren't much either.. - just be online regularly if you miss a day every now and then it's fine - preferably laid back people who don't want to have everything right there and now. - respect guildmembers and don't scam people. that's bout it. we're mostly a PVE guild who also like the PvP aspect, but we haven't done much yet.. mostly because of lack of members, we've had 1 guild battle with 4 henchman 4 members and we won that. anyone got any suggestions ? btw.. we're a european guild.

Aug 17, 2005, 04:05 AM // 04:05	#2
Divine Elemental Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Near Your House Guild: I Used To Own [ IUTO ]	via Pug Groups if ur a pvp.... for pve recruit in Droknars/Lions Arch

Aug 17, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52	#3
Ristaron Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Guild: Legion Of Valhalla Profession: E/	If you find a hot spot, tell me

Aug 17, 2005, 05:05 AM // 05:05	#4
smurfhunter Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: my w/mo uses mending, orison, and healing breeze. you cant kill him. Guild: Sand Scorpions [SS] Profession: W/Mo	i started a guild with a few friends. i got my first few members helping out a lvl 10 as a lvl 20, it impressed some of the lower lvls lol. then it just tends to snowball. do funny things. like i once merged with another guild when me and this monk in our guild started sync dancing in sanctum cay. pretty soon it was 6 monks sync dancing. then we did the mission together (FYI it was hella easy with 6 monks), then it just so happened that two of the monks were in a guild and that they were looking to merge. voila, + 5 members. that stay.

Aug 18, 2005, 02:42 PM // 14:42	#5
Sir Santiago Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: The Plauge Profession: Mo/Me	A lot of people go to Pre-Ascalon, Ascalon, Lion's Arch, and Droknar's and drop their "Guild Ad" and expect people to instantly reply.. Sorry, doesn't work like that. My guild has similar troubles in attracting people to our guild.. Afterall, what advantage do they have to join our smaller guild than a large guild with many people? The key is to make your "Guild Ad" unique. Try to state exactly what you are looking for instead of doing the usual.. "So and so guild has cool capes and a cool guild hall. PM me to join". Just make it more interesting, and I promise people will respond. It's also important that once someone responds, make sure you get to know them first. If they seem like they'd be a good fit, invite 'em. If you are even SLIGHTLY unsure, don't invite them. You want the best people you can find that fits YOUR specific guild mold. Again, like another poster said, play with other people. If someone asks for help, help them. Be friendly, talk to them, etc. **Above all, DO NOT invite people that are looking for rewards for joining!.. Ex, people that want money to join your guild. It just isn't worth it in the long run, as I've found out myself. You want people that want to join and that will contribute to the guild.

Aug 18, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13	#7
conker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: nowhere Guild: none	well, i just made my friends officers nd they got the job done pretty well, about 6 are friends and they recruited about 1 or 2each so we had bout 14 after that, and irecruited bout 10 and such.... and in droknars forge i seem to see alot of ppl say, lookin for a guild.

Aug 19, 2005, 11:05 AM // 11:05	#8
Druids Arrow Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Random Arenas Guild: Organised Spam [OS] Profession: R/	At the moment, my guild isn't looking to recruit but when we do we usually drop ads like (Yes people can use this) : (Guild Name) is now recruiting. We are an English based PvP guild, using TS. To apply visit (insert web address here/ or whisper me for details). By having the website URL it attracts the more serious players. If your guild is based on having fun and not so much on the competition/PvP based side of things try an ad like : Join Today and recieve a free care bear! -Hope that helps a little

Aug 19, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09	#9
free4all Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005	I think guilds who spam for new members are going about it wrong. If you want new members, make sure they are good first. For example, you are doing Thunderhead Keep, and the monk is doing an amazing job. Look, he/she is guildless! Send them a whisper if they would be interested in joining you. Same with PvP. Do the 4v4 arenas, with 3 guildies and one random person. If they happen to be guildless, ask them if they are interested. The pro to this is that you get to experience what kind of player and what kind of person they are. You probably don't want people who scream "OMG HAX" when they lose...so I wouldn't recommend random recruiting in ascalon/lions arch.

Aug 21, 2005, 01:50 PM // 13:50	#11
Philedius Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: [GT]	Simple answer: Pre Searing

Aug 22, 2005, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#12
northern wind Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: or die trying	pre searing recruits FTW

Aug 22, 2005, 11:27 AM // 11:27	#13
Glydan Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Shanghai, China Profession: W/E	I'd say spamming in the guild chat is still okay, as long as you have some sort of screening process for the recruits~

Aug 22, 2005, 04:24 PM // 16:24	#14
J snukka Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: New York	What i used to do was go into any town and hold down ctrl. If i found someone without a tag name next to them i would ask them whether they wanna join a guild or not. Then i mission with them or do whatever they what(quest, farm) to test out their talent. Hope that helps

Aug 22, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19	#15
Billiard Doctor of Philosophy Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Guild: Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us	I had a untagged new character in Frontier gate or some other early mission and a level 20 was there looking for non-guild affiliated people to assist. While he was not actively recruiting, I think that would be a good recruiting method. Help some folks out and get to know them, then offer to invite them to your guild if they seemed alright.

Aug 23, 2005, 02:39 PM // 14:39	#16
Sporky Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Aug 2005	I ignore "[Guildname] is now recruiting, we have a cool cape and guildhall, whisper me for details" messages by definition, and my answer to spam-whispers "Want to join our guild?" is always no. A guild that spam-recruits like that sends the message that they want warm bodies to fill up their roster rather than quality players. Try offering to be helpful. Look for the people with slightly low levels or slightly crappy armor and no guild tag and ask if they want to join you for a quest or two. It may take a lot of time and energy, but great guilds made up of great players rarely just suddenly materialize. Of course, you may get lucky, but it's far more likely that you'll wind up with a bunch of idiots. Basically, I see two options: you can either spam-recruit and filter people out after they join, which may actually alienate the better (or at least more experienced) players who don't want to join a zerg guild; or, you can grow in size more slowly and with much more effort, but be assured that only good players are in your ranks.

Aug 24, 2005, 12:27 AM // 00:27	#19
Gerbill Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Frozen plains. Guild: The Llanowar Legion [LL] Profession: Me/N	Thanks for your help people =) last sunday our guild took in a newer and younger guild to merge. We knew the guildleader from another game and he's a solid player, we don't know about the rest yet, so im currently filtering them out etc. And the guild that we had with the few members are mainly around lvl 20 so we're helping them out now, the new members that is, since they average around lvl 13. I don't mind doing this at all it's a good way to get to know the members aswel. I don't like spamming anything even in the trade channel usually I only offer things twice and then I'll stop and try again later. So for me that's not really an option, I've set up rules for recruiting for my officers. And now we all basicly take up some time every other day to party with some guild-less people and see if they fit with our guild. these ideas posted here helped a lot =)

Aug 24, 2005, 06:21 AM // 06:21	#20
Stellar Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Guild: aV Profession: Mo/N	play with them and get to know them that's what i do